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peter56

peter56
just wondering if this tournament next june is replacing the melbourne tenpin cup if so i see they have put the entry fee back up above $300 will this reduce the amount of bowlers
 
srry folks my mistake the entry fee i was thinking of was sth pacific but anyway is it replacing the tenpin cup
 
spc in sydney somewhere different for a change maybe it should be moved around more often a bit of variety??
 
It was in Sydney for about 20 years! When it was at Bankstown the centre would be decked out with poster prints of previous champions and banners with their names. It had a feel of real history going on. All that's gone now, including Bankstown Bowl.

But moving SPC around isn't necessarily a bad idea.
 
It was in Sydney for about 20 years! When it was at Bankstown the centre would be decked out with poster prints of previous champions and banners with their names. It had a feel of real history going on. All that's gone now, including Bankstown Bowl.
But moving SPC around isn't necessarily a bad idea.


just a quick off topic question...

how far is castle hill from newcastle?
 
Castle Hill, and Newcastle?

If you're taking a taxi, you'll need a healthy wad of cash ;) I'd be reckoning you're talking two hours...
 
From the Freeway Newcastle to the end of the Freeway at Hornsby is 115 k's takes 1Hr 20 Mins, from the end of the Freeway to Castle hill is about 10-15 k's, thats 15mins with no Traffic, add in how far from the start of the Freeway in Newcastle and what time of day you intend to drive through at the end of the Freeway i.e; it could take an extra half hour in peak-hour traffic.

willey
 
i may be off base here but was reading the entry form for the melbourne international and the top 16 cut mens and 8 womens is based upon a minimum of one international bowler being in there (non resident of australia), does this mean that regardless if no international bowlers finishing in the cut for either division that 16th or 8th place will have to forego their finals spot so there is at least one international bowler in the finals? would hardly seem fair and am guessing this is not how it is supposed to look, but maybe someone who is helping with this tournament can clarify and perhaps the entry form rules be updated? be a bit rough for someone who finishes say 16th in qualifying for the guys to go from a $900 pay day to a $450 result because of a rule like this. Other than that the tournament looks good so far.
 
i may be off base here but was reading the entry form for the melbourne international and the top 16 cut mens and 8 womens is based upon a minimum of one international bowler being in there (non resident of australia), does this mean that regardless if no international bowlers finishing in the cut for either division that 16th or 8th place will have to forego their finals spot so there is at least one international bowler in the finals? would hardly seem fair and am guessing this is not how it is supposed to look, but maybe someone who is helping with this tournament can clarify and perhaps the entry form rules be updated? be a bit rough for someone who finishes say 16th in qualifying for the guys to go from a $900 pay day to a $450 result because of a rule like this. Other than that the tournament looks good so far.


I agree Michael. To finish 16th only to be told that you are not in the matchplay because there were no internationals above you, but there MUST be one in the final, is a little harsh.

I just checked out the link that Tonx posted regarding the rankings system for next year. Section 1.5 states that "A matchplay final must be made up of the top qualifiers".

Unless I've missed something, it would appear that this stipulation goes against the TBA's very own guidelines for next year.
 
Section 1.5 states that "A matchplay final must be made up of the top qualifiers".
Unless I've missed something, it would appear that this stipulation goes against the TBA's very own guidelines for next year.
Funnily enough that's exactly what I just said over on that thread... I agree with everybody's interpretation thus far
 
Perhaps there needs to be a slight re-wording, but this is the situation:

The top 15 local bowlers plus 1 international bowler will make up the top 16, should there be no international bowler in the field then ALL 16 spots will be filled by local bowlers.

There is no Aussie giving up the 16 position, because it does not exist unless there is no international bowler.

It seems less likely there will be an international field now, as the HK Open is on at the same time. The mostly likely international entry will come from NZ.

As to the TBA rule, the entry form was approved and an accreditation number given to the event.

When the format was put together, it was decided to try and get more international bowlers into the field. There is no doubt international bowlers add to the favour of an event and tend to promote an interesting to watch.

I am sure alot of us can remember how full the stands were when the MTC was at Ringwood. On the other side, how many people would have been in the stands at this years SPC without Paeng bowling
 
The top 15 local bowlers plus 1 international bowler will make up the top 16, should there be no international bowler in the field then ALL 16 spots will be filled by local bowlers.
Grant, I'm still confused.

If Paeng comes back and qualifies dead last (but is the only international in the field) then the 16 is Top 15 + Paeng ?

So the cut is actually Top 15 + 1 Invitational spot, with the invitation given thusly;
1. In the case of NO International in the cut of their own accord, then the highest placed International from Qualifying
2. Otherwise, or if no internationals, the next highest qualifier outside the 15

?

That still contravenes that point 1.5, in that it's not the top qualifiers who are in the final.

Like I said before, I don't blame the organisers for the confusion entirely, it would seem the requirements for being a ranked event have changed, possibly after the event was accredited?

Looks like a sweet path to the finals for Craig Nevatt perhaps ;) - not that he has looked like needing one
 
Perhaps there needs to be a slight re-wording, but this is the situation:
The top 15 local bowlers plus 1 international bowler will make up the top 16, should there be no international bowler in the field then ALL 16 spots will be filled by local bowlers.
There is no Aussie giving up the 16 position, because it does not exist unless there is no international bowler.
It seems less likely there will be an international field now, as the HK Open is on at the same time. The mostly likely international entry will come from NZ.
As to the TBA rule, the entry form was approved and an accreditation number given to the event.


Grant so what you are saying then is if there is 1 internationanl bowler and they finish below 15th after qualifying they will be given the 16th place for match play. Dosen't this then mean that if the top 16 are all local bowlers the 16th placed local will not make the cut and get the prize money for 17th place. You have stated the same thing with different wording.

This really needs to be clarified as matchplay will be the top 16 no matter who attends and especially with the new TBA Rules.
 
From the way I read it, Matchplay is TOP 15 BOWLERS plus 1 invited spot.
This invitational spot is to be filled based on the following:
A) If NO international bowler in top 15, then highest international bowler is invited.
B) If at least 1 international bowler in top 15, then 16th place invited.
c) If NO international bowlers in the field, then 16th place invited.


The rule 1.5 could be argued that it seems to be aimed at stopping TD's from elevating a bowler up the field based on gender.
 
Pluff,

I agree with the way it reads, As you can see from your B) and C) readings 16th place is invited so what happens if no international in top 16 is the 16th place now made 17th with a loss of $450 and no matchplay apperance.

No matter how it reads, there will always be a 16th placed qualifier, the question is what happens to their prize money if there is an international bowler in the field and they do not qualify in the top 16.
 
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