da_cowman said:
We had to ask whether it would be legal to start bowlin' 2 handed, and they said you can, but you can't change the way you spin the ball eg:-Right-handed spin to left-handed spin.
Strangest variation of that rule I have ever heard...
If the event was handicapped, you can't change hands, or ever move to 2 hands. In a Scratch event, Do whatever you like, even change your axis rotation, left or right. I believe this is because in handicapped, your handicapped is given to you on the basis of your ability to bowl with your left or right hand, or both. As such changing hands means you don't have an accredited average for that and therefore no handicap. In Scratch it doesnt matter cos your average is irrelavant.
Can anyone clarify this rule?
Later Da Cowman!
You are half right. I myself have had to go through all these rules for my own reasons, and have been through all the rules about it in the TBA Official Rule Book (latest version). I created some controvercy up here with the same thing. Here are the relevant rules and clarifications:
RULE 122 - AVERAGE - DEFINITION OF:
"A new average must be established if the bowler finds it necessary to change his delivery from right to left-handed or vice versa. Refer to RULE 213 FOR FURTHER DETAILS ON DELIVERIES."
RULE 213 - BALL DELIVERY DEFINITION:
a) "For a delivery to be classed as Two Handed, NO HOLES drilled for gripping purposes will be USED when making the delivery. If the ball is delivered on the RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE BODY, THE RIGHT HAND WILL BE DEEMED TO BE THE PROMINENT HAND and visa versa."
b) "If any holes drilled for gripping purposes are used to make a delivery, the ball will be deemed to be delivered WITH THE RELEVANT HAND. EG. IF A BALL IS DELIVERED WITH THE FINGERS OF THE RIGHT HAND INSERTED IN HOLES DRILLED FOR GRIPPING PURPOSES, THE BALL IS DEEMED TO BE DELIVERED RIGHT HANDED and visa versa, REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG THE BALL IS HELD IN TWO HANDS DURING THE DELIVERY."
RULE 603 - DRILLING SPECIFICATIONS:
"Any hole drilled for gripping purposes will not be deemed to be a balance hole. However, when delivering a ball that has a thumb hole drilled, the player must have his/her thumb left in OR OVER the thumb hole. It may not be 180 degrees away from the thumb hole. If a bowler delivers a ball and did not have his/her thumb as defined, the ball will be deemed illegal for that delivery and pins knocked down with that delivery will not be counted."
From this it can be clearly seen that if you are bowling with your left hand - you CAN bowl "with two hands" provided that the last hand to leave the ball is the prominant hand that the bowler normally uses. This applies for both Handicapped and Scratch events. In Rowan's case - you cannot "legally" in a handicapped tournament, switch from left handed to right-handed "two handed bowling", but you are legally able to bowl "two-handed" left handed...if you catch what I mean. If the ball is bowled on the same side of your body that you normally bowl with - it IS legal. I have also asked John Coxon from TBA about this and he has agreed with me about what the rules state, so the above is true.
The most important thing to note from the rules is that you can switch to bowling with two hands in a handicapped tournament, provided the ball is bowled on the same side of the body. A new average DOES NOT NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED IN THIS CASE, only if the bowler switches from right to left handed, and visa versa. There is no such thing as a "two handed average" in the TBA Rulebook. This seems to be a common misconception in the sport, especially when you turn up to a handicapped tournament and bowl two handed. I know because people have made comments about it in my case recently.
Anyway hope this clarification helps to provide increased knowledge for the sake of the sport