Mushtare gets 900's approved

First 900 in Aus coming up at Knox bowl next week ( pre bowl lol ).................;)


Gary.............................................:D
 
Gary said:
First 900 in Aus coming up at Knox bowl next week ( pre bowl lol ).................;)
Gary.............................................:D

Don't forget to bring your Daddy!!! haha
 
Note that there are two lots of 900 series on the sheet. Just gives the impression that either both count or none count. I'm not sure whether in fact they were approved. In my opinion it looks like they have been listed subject to approval.

Does anybody else agree with this opinion?

Feral
 
Hmmmmm. I think I will give myself 230 average and a 300 game every couple of weeks and 900 in 6 months time.

All I need now is to convince my dad to work in a bowling centre, maybe in charge of scoring system. :rolleyes:
 
Oh hell, I'll just phone my scores in. I'm good for it! ;-)

And they never sanctioned Glenn Allison's 900 with a conventional grip Yellow Dot.
 
Next pickup line for some mechanic'll be something along the lines of "ever wanted to bowl a sanctioned 900 series? well... come to my centre and i can take care of that..."
Just for a laugh :D
R
 
All he need to do now is to get his dad working in the PBA so he can be the greatest PBA player of all time...

Do they allow pre-bowl in the PBA Tournaments???
 
Hard to know whether to be angry or congratulate the man. I would love to know about the 'thorough investigation' process that took place. Apparently there were 'fewer than 4 witnesses' present for each of the 900's. That's truly iron clad evidence.

But hey, if any one of the 900's he has claimed are legitimate, then it is a significant achievement and you have to congratulate the guy.

The only basis i can see for all of the approved claims being truthful is that usually when something underhand takes place, people will be sneaky and commit incremental wrongs so as not to draw attention to themselves. I don't think anyone could not draw attention to themselves with 3 900 series claims! That's why it may all be above board, as no one would even try to get away with anything so big - "what say we take a trip to the Mint and print some money? What a scheme, we can get as much as we want!"

I think this gentleman's future performances will speak for themself in his defence. For his sake, i hope he does very, very well on the PBA tour.
 
Mushtare interview with Jim King - Today, 12:16 AM

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On June 19th, after four months of deliberation, the USBC announced that they had certified the two 900 series award claims that were shot during unopposed pre-bowling for a youth league by Robert Mushtare of Carthage, NY, making him the youngest 900 shooter to ever be certified as well as the first bowler to shoot multiple 900s. He had previously turned in a 900 series in November, which was declined. He was said to have claimed two others in practice.
After Glenn Allison and 5-6 other bowlers since the 1930s had had 900s declined for various reasons, including illegal lane conditions, I was very surprised that USBC certified Robert’s 900s, considering the circumstances (pre-bowled and unopposed).
I had read and heard hundreds of posts and opinions about his claims on the internet, mostly negative, without hearing anything from him personally. I decided to try and interview Robert myself. Once contacted, he was very open to doing the interview. You can draw your own conclusions.


JK: Robby, how old are you?
RM: Seventeen

JK: Are you a senior in High School?
RM: I’ll graduate this Friday

JK: If I ’m correct, you shot a 900 in November that was turned down by USBC. Is that right?
RM: Yes, November.

JK: Then, you shot another 900 in December and another 900 in February, correct?
RM: Yes.

JK: Robby, could you please explain what the series of circumstances were that led you to have to pre-bowl…which resulted in the 900s in all three cases?
RM: I had school functions for the first two and I was going to the PBA Pro-Am when league was bowling for the 3rd one.

JK: Were those the only times you pre-bowled in that league?
RM: No, there were a few other times, but only some 700s…no award scores.

JK: So, all the other award scores you have shot came during a regularly scheduled league?
RM: Yeah.

JK: Were you bowling alone for all three 900s?
RM: No, only the first and second one. The third one was a doubles league. I was bowling with Jamie Grimm.

JK: How did he bowl?
RM: He had 741 and his first 300.

JK: So, the two of you had four 300s out of six games?
RM: (Pause) Yeah.
JK: What time of day was your pre-bowling? I’ve heard differing stories.
RM: I shot the first two at about noon. The last one was about 6:30 pm.

JK: How did you feel about the first one getting turned down?
RM: I was upset.

JK: Did you understand why the USBC turned it down?
RM: Yeah, but I didn’t do anything wrong. I had paid my dues, but the local association didn’t do their part.

JK: How long did you practice before you started pre-bowling?
RM: Well, the machine was set for 10 minutes, but I never take that long.

JK: So, you bowled until you were warmed up, then turned them on bowl?
RM: Yeah, I just told the desk guy when I was ready to start.

JK: Was there someone in the center each time?
RM: Yeah

JK: Was your father there for any of the 900s?
RM: No

JK: Does he own the center? That’s the story going around.
RM: No, its owned by the government. It’s on an Army base

JK: What kind of ball did you use for all three?
RM: I used a Paradigm for the first and second one. For the last one, I used an X-Factor Ace.

JK: How were they laid out?
RM: To go deep, you know, down the lane.

JK: You’re not sure if they were stacked leverage or 5”x3” or whatever?
RM: I just tell my ball driller what I want it to do and he drills it that way.

JK: How would you describe your style…Cranker? Power Tweener? Stroker?
RM: A power tweener, I guess.

JK: What is your rev rate?
RM: Don’t know

JK: Do you know your axis tilt or axis rotation?
RM: No

JK: I’m sure you are aware of all the skepticism around the country about your scores? How do you feel about that?
RM: Well, people talk and that upsets me. But, I can’t dwell on it. I want to go
further with my bowling, so I can’t dwell on it.

JK: I’ve heard by rumor that on the internet you said that you can tell when a tap is coming and adjust before you throw the shot. Is that true?
RM: I’ve been misunderstood. There has been a lot written.

JK: Okay, what is the story on that?
RM: My dad has worked with me for years on that…being able to adjust. You can tell by the way the pins are falling that you’re getting ready to leave a 10 pin. That’s what I mean. I try to move earlier so I won’t leave any. You can ask anyone. I leave a lot fewer 10 pins than most bowlers.

JK: Do you have plans or ambitions on turning pro?
RM: Yes, in a few years…after college.

JK: Have any colleges expressed interest or offered scholarships?
RM: Saginaw Valley wanted me to come out there, but it’s too far.

JK: What are your goals at Junior Gold this year?
RM: I’d like to make the team of course. But, just finishing plus would be a good goal. It’ll be my first time on a sports pattern.

JK: There will be some college coaches there. Do you hope to impress them?
RM: What do you mean?

JK: Well, obviously, everyone will be watching you. If you happen to impress a college coach enough with your game, you might get offered a scholarship?
RM: Oh, yeah.

JK: If I heard right, you also had two 900s in practice. Is that correct?
RM: Yeah

JK: Were you just practicing and counted 36 in a row or were you keeping score?
RM: The scorers were on for both of them.

JK: So, why do you think you have been able to achieve these feats…three 900s in league and two more 900s in practice…when millions of bowlers before you, including PBA members, haven’t even been able to shoot one 900?
RM: Luck, I guess. I’ve been real lucky. I’ve also spent lots of hours in practice.

JK: When USBC interviewed you, did they ask you to take a polygraph test?
RM: No

JK: Would you be willing to take one?
RM: I don’t really see why. (pause) I don’t think so. (pause) I guess I would if I absolutely had to.

JK: Is there anything you’d like to say that you haven’t been given a chance to say anywhere else?
RM: No, I can’t think of anything.

JK: This is your chance to answer your critics.
RM: Nah.

JK: Is there a question that you wished you’d been asked?
RM: No. The local papers have asked me a lot of questions.
It happened.

Was lifted of allbowling.


Gary...............................................:cool:
 
This is what gets me...
JK: When USBC interviewed you, did they ask you to take a polygraph test?
RM: No
JK: Would you be willing to take one?
RM: I don’t really see why. (pause) I don’t think so. (pause) I guess I would if I absolutely had to.
If I had shot one, by all means, take one.
Why would he refuse to take a polygraph test... UNLESS he has something to hide.
Just goes to show... MUSHACK is a CHEAT.
 
Great read, im still not convinced that this hack is for real. He got lucky? you dont just get lucky mate.

I loved this
JK: So, the two of you had four 300s out of six games?
RM: (Pause) Yeah.

i can picture him counting on his fingers during the pause
 
This what a guy on another site had to say:


I have a simple answer to this whole issue. If 'Lil Mushy' is as good as he brags to be, it should be easy to prove. Lets put out a basic "league shot" across the whole house, and let him pick a pill to see what pair he's bowling on. We'll put 7 other bowlers on the pair as 'pacers', (just like regular 4-man-team league play), and roll 3 games. If he manages to pull an 875, he11, even 850 out of his a$$, I might believe that he tossed a 900. Otherwise, I think the whole situation (AND the USBC) is as full of $hit as a christmas turkey.

I guarantee that they will NEVER get another sanction fee out of me, and if I have anything to say about it, they'll be missing a LOT of sanction fees. I think we need to start pushing for nonsanctioned leagues. Think about it.. .what does sanctioning do for a bowler? Oooohhhh... they get recognition for scores, maybe a patch or a ring. Big schytt... recognition for doing well in a sport that is losing credibility faster than Mushtare's perfect series.
 
And another:

So they approved it on "multiple interviews", "available information", and "available documentation", huh? I think I'm gonna go down the bowl with a couple friends as "witnesses", sweep the pins off 36 times and roll the ball to trip the scoring each time... go to the desk and print out my 'perfect' series so I can get my 900 award and my name in the papers, too. Should be good enough... couple of witnesses saying I did it, a score sheet printed directly off the scoring system showing 3-300 games, and my word that I knocked down 10 pins 36 times. There's all the 'available information and documentation'... Hall Of Fame here I come!!!
 
And yet another:

The credibility of the USBC (ABC) and bowling didn't just happen overnight... it's being going on for well over 20 years. It disgusts me to the point where I've grown tired of being disgusted with it. Every time I start to thinking there might be some small glimmer of hope to turn this game around... our 'governing body' (I use that term loosely) goes and urinates on it once again. It's a crime... it really is. A crime to millions of ABC members over the past several decades... whose quality bowling accomplishments have been forever anihilated from the record books. They never stood a chance... not with the bunch of spineless, gutless, and gonadless ABC directors hell bent on destroying the credibility of the game time and time again.

I worked hard for many, many years to become proficient at this game. I earned my first 200 average when I was 14 years old, and I averaged well over 200 for the next 23 years. I'm sad to say I gave up all hope with the state of bowling a couple years back though, and I haven't touched a ball in almost 3 years now. I sold all 6 of my 300 awards on Ebay. They meant absolutely NOTHING to me anymore... due to the spineless bunch of 'sanctity killers' that comprise the ABC/USBC... and the bad joke they have turned this game into.

It was such a great game... with such a rich history... for so many years. Sad to believe those years are now gone for good. Truly sad indeed.
 
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