Nighteyes300 said:
Hi,
I'm from melb and have nothing to do with c/cup, but from what i have read your 'selection' process seems a little unfair. if bowler 'A' bowls better than bowler 'B' then why does bowler 'A' miss out??
Why don't local championships count??? if you have to bowl them to be eligible for the following 2 trials they should be counted, in my opinion anyway...
In our state team trials (ECCC) and aslo dunn shield the top seven placed bowlers are taken as the representing team, ECCC is trialed over 3 stages, two 8 game rolloffs and championships (9 games).
Regards
John Costantini
MTBA Director
John
In answer to your question each association runs their trials for their teams in differennt ways. We also stipulate that in order to be eligible for our representative teams (Junior Adult and Senior) that you must have at least bowled a teams event in the local championships. These scores do not count towards the trials.
Alot of country associations do not have the volume of people bowling in local championships that the city people may have.
Since we have introduced this rule in the past two years our local championship entries have increased dramatically. Most people whilst only are required to bowl teams actually bowl in all events.
(To only bowl teams in the local championship was selected as when representing the association they are team events.)
It was originally voted that to be eligible to bowl the person had to bowl an all events but this was reduced after concerns were raised to the cost. Some families could have up to 5 people wanting to trial ie Mum, Dad and 3 kids. (instead of having to pay for 15 events they would only be required to pay for 5.)
Also originally scores from the championships were to count but this was also removed bassed on concerns from the bowlers that as our championships were over a couple of weekends not everybody would have the same lane conditions and therefore their could be an unfair advantage.
Both of these changes were implemented due to listening to our bowlers concerns and were made on the basis that we want the maximum number of people eligible to trial for our representative teams.
Also we have some people that represent both teams ie Adult/Senior and Adult/Junior would their championship scores then count for both events.
Furthermore you can also apply in writing if for some reason you were unable to bowl in the championships that you can still trial for the local representative teams. (example championships might be in May, trials are in November) If scores were to count then what scores would we give to people who you allow to trials whilst not competing in championships.
Our trials for the adults are 20 games (10 Sat, 10 Sun) Top 7 go away
Obviously you know that Shepparton are different and so are alot of other associations. Some dont have trials and in the past some teams were picked purely from a selction commitee with no trials at all.
You only have to look at the Australian Youth team and the talk that has been created with their selections. (Based on your theory it should have been the top 4)
In the past Rachuig have done it - I think that they were top 5 with 2 selections, Victorian Youth team did it recently top 3 with 1 selection. In these case I know of instances when the 6th,7th qualifier (Rachuig) or 4th qualifier(Youth team) have not made the side.
With the top 7 pinfall getters their is no argument as to who is in the team and who isnt. The question is are these 7 in the side the best possible team that the association could send away and in cases sometimes the 8th, 9th, 10th qualifier is the better "team" member
It is sort of a long winded answer to your question.
When you have a selection process at any level whether local, state or national as soon as you pick someone from outside of your top 7 in a seven man team then there is always going to be questions asked. It is just unfortunate that this one has been aired on a public forum and people on both sides of the decision have been accused.
