Berri is on for 2009 - Squad listing below
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Tournaments are very hard and costly to run,I spent thousands this weekend to provide, yes the conditions were tough for everybody! the info that i posted was fact, from the manufactures of the machine in the USA via AMF Sydeny, a double run to 22 ft was posted is infact approx 120 units,please feel free to contact Brad at AMF!The conditions were the same all day odviously if you read the lanes well the score showed.
I did the best I could, to provide a trouble free tournament, there were no issues all weekend ,I thank the staff who worked so hard for all the bowlers,it make me sad and to a point to pull the event over a few Bowlers criticism, I do take it to heart, I worked dam hard to please everbody odviously even bowlers who didnt bowl have some ill feeling toward the Tournament.
The top 16, 169 pins the difference from top to bottom for me it was a great comp you had to work for every pin.
Onya Rob who played with a bung knee and finished 9th well done,
Congratulations to George for winning the tournament !and to Ann Maree to stick it up the blokes !! Colin Hunt who gave it to George all day and to Jason walsh who Finished in the top 4.and to all of you who participated I thankyou very much...
I am glad that the majority enjoyed the challange.
Steve...
I will post the final results tomorrow morning...
I did the best I could, to provide a trouble free tournament, there were no issues all weekend ,I thank the staff who worked so hard for all the bowlers,it make me sad and to a point to pull the event over a few Bowlers criticism, I do take it to heart, I worked dam hard to please everbody odviously even bowlers who didnt bowl have some ill feeling toward the Tournament.
The top 16, 169 pins the difference from top to bottom for me it was a great comp you had to work for every pin.
Onya Rob who played with a bung knee and finished 9th well done,
Congratulations to George for winning the tournament !and to Ann Maree to stick it up the blokes !! Colin Hunt who gave it to George all day and to Jason walsh who Finished in the top 4.and to all of you who participated I thankyou very much...
I am glad that the majority enjoyed the challange.
Steve...
I will post the final results tomorrow morning...
gregbyrne@iinet.net.au
New Member
Well said Steve i wasn't there so i wont comment on anything but i spoke to travis barnard who i coach and he wasn't dissapointed with the way he bowled he said it was tuff but it was tuff for everyone.
maybe next year i will get over for this and put up brenton davy,colin hunt and frosty u old bastards will see u guys next year in victoria fo the a.t.b.s.o nationals
Regards Greg Byrne
maybe next year i will get over for this and put up brenton davy,colin hunt and frosty u old bastards will see u guys next year in victoria fo the a.t.b.s.o nationals
Regards Greg Byrne
strop
Elite Athlete
Talk about interesting comments...........I almost feel left out..........
Sounds like it was a tough but great tournament!
My only question would be, if the same conditions was laid down next year, will everyone return to bowl again?
Will they fill the tournament?
Cheers
Tony
Sounds like it was a tough but great tournament!
My only question would be, if the same conditions was laid down next year, will everyone return to bowl again?
Will they fill the tournament?
Cheers
Tony
I would like to personally thank Steve, Anne and all the team at Berri for a very well run tournament. It was great to see so many bowlers there and it was great to catch up with some old faces.
Like has been said before, people are always asking for tougher patterns, yet when they are delivered these people are the first to criticise. What more can centres do to make people happy?
There has always been great debate as to how seriously bowling is taken as a sport in Australia. Maybe if certain bowlers stopped complaining so much and just accepted the challenges that sometimes arise in sport, then our great game would be taken more seriously by others.
There are not many sports in the world where you can expect perfect conditions each time you get out there. Bowling is no different, and there are many factors that can influence the final product that you get to bowl on.
If you are only taking gear to a tournament for one condition, then perhaps you can not expect to do overly well. Like what was said earlier, conditions change.
How about we focus on the great elements of this tournament and do our best to make sure that SA has some tournaments left. Otherwise we might find that we all need to spend a lot more money travelling to tournaments that are further away.
Steve, Anne and their team have done a great job with this tournament and they do not deserve to receive such negative feedback just because it didn't suit a few people or it wasn't what they expected it to be. There were lanes, there were pins - and these were able to be bowled down as long as you were consistent throughout the weekend.
I will certainly be back next year and I think anyone who is thinking rationally will be there also.
Congratulation to George on winning his second consecutive Riverland Cup!
Like has been said before, people are always asking for tougher patterns, yet when they are delivered these people are the first to criticise. What more can centres do to make people happy?
There has always been great debate as to how seriously bowling is taken as a sport in Australia. Maybe if certain bowlers stopped complaining so much and just accepted the challenges that sometimes arise in sport, then our great game would be taken more seriously by others.
There are not many sports in the world where you can expect perfect conditions each time you get out there. Bowling is no different, and there are many factors that can influence the final product that you get to bowl on.
If you are only taking gear to a tournament for one condition, then perhaps you can not expect to do overly well. Like what was said earlier, conditions change.
How about we focus on the great elements of this tournament and do our best to make sure that SA has some tournaments left. Otherwise we might find that we all need to spend a lot more money travelling to tournaments that are further away.
Steve, Anne and their team have done a great job with this tournament and they do not deserve to receive such negative feedback just because it didn't suit a few people or it wasn't what they expected it to be. There were lanes, there were pins - and these were able to be bowled down as long as you were consistent throughout the weekend.
I will certainly be back next year and I think anyone who is thinking rationally will be there also.
Congratulation to George on winning his second consecutive Riverland Cup!
I just want to thank Anne and Steve for a great job over the weekend. NO problems which meant the tournament ran smoothly.
For those that bowled we experienced a very challenging conditions, and Quoting my mum A GOOD BOWLER WILL ADJUST TO OVERCOME A TOUGH CONDITION. Those that made the adjustment, i beleive cashed in the end.
So - stop baging this tournment if you didnt bowl and grow up - Steve and Anne put in time and Money so we can have this tournament.
enough said.
Dolly
For those that bowled we experienced a very challenging conditions, and Quoting my mum A GOOD BOWLER WILL ADJUST TO OVERCOME A TOUGH CONDITION. Those that made the adjustment, i beleive cashed in the end.
So - stop baging this tournment if you didnt bowl and grow up - Steve and Anne put in time and Money so we can have this tournament.
enough said.
Dolly
First of all Ann Maree and I would like to Thank Steve and a very well run tournament it was great to come over here and bowl and support a country tournament. Yes the conditions were tough but we all had to bowl on them. Steve did the best he could with the oiling machine he had. I did not bowl very good but I still really enjoyed the challenging the conditions, Ann Maree bowled great. It was great to see 70 bowlers supporting this tournament and still having fun.
Ann Maree and I will be back next year, looking forward to the tournament and the tough conditions we all have to learn from them and adjust.
Thanks Steve,Anne and staff they put alot of effort and there own money into these tournaments for us to come and bowl so bowlers enjoy.
Carol Gianotti and Ann Maree Putney
Ann Maree and I will be back next year, looking forward to the tournament and the tough conditions we all have to learn from them and adjust.
Thanks Steve,Anne and staff they put alot of effort and there own money into these tournaments for us to come and bowl so bowlers enjoy.
Carol Gianotti and Ann Maree Putney
AdrianS
This is the future!!!
Can someone tell me what sort of oiling machine it was? If its a century 100 my offer is still open, hell i'll mail you guys the 2 plastic rulers to put in the thing so i dont have to fly down. All the money and enthusiasm is great but minus the product knowledge and bad things happen
Glennell
Active Member
The emotions appear to be running high. Unfortunately I couldn’t bowl on the weekend but I did watch on Sunday and enjoyed watching some great bowlers. Congratulations to the top 4.
There are two schools of thought. Set an easier pattern to allow all bowlers to reach a higher tournament average and retain their self esteem or set a tough pattern that will challenge all bowlers but with the knowledge the averages will be down. I’m buggered if I know which one is right but I have said it before – a tougher condition can be better for an “average” bowler as it can be a great equaliser.
I’m not sure an easier condition would have changed the result other than the thread wouldn’t have been as entertaining.
To Steve – don’t let the comments of a few get you down. Talk to Steve Rawson (Village) about how bowlers like to comment on lane conditions. You ran what looked like to great tournament – the sport needs the support of centres like Berri bowl and people like you. I’ll be a starter for next year.
There are two schools of thought. Set an easier pattern to allow all bowlers to reach a higher tournament average and retain their self esteem or set a tough pattern that will challenge all bowlers but with the knowledge the averages will be down. I’m buggered if I know which one is right but I have said it before – a tougher condition can be better for an “average” bowler as it can be a great equaliser.
I’m not sure an easier condition would have changed the result other than the thread wouldn’t have been as entertaining.
To Steve – don’t let the comments of a few get you down. Talk to Steve Rawson (Village) about how bowlers like to comment on lane conditions. You ran what looked like to great tournament – the sport needs the support of centres like Berri bowl and people like you. I’ll be a starter for next year.
Pos. Name Squad Total Pinfall (Stage 1) Pinfall (Stage 2) Average (Stage 2) G11 G12 G13 G14
1 George Frilingos A 2724 1888 836 209.00 215 207 180 234
2 Colin Hunt B 2705 1893 812 203.00 220 200 192 200
3 Ann Maree Putney A 2623 1849 774 193.50 204 186 186 198
4 Paul Dollman B 2587 1811 776 194.00 148 201 224 203
5 Jason Walsh B 2584 1839 745 186.25 183 176 177 209
6 Brenton Davy B 2553 1841 712 178.00 156 209 199 148
7 Russell Hinton A 2486 1791 695 173.75 166 192 183 154
8 Cameron Zacher C 2481 1756 725 181.25 184 164 189 188
9 Rob Chinner A 2468 1831 637 159.25 161 181 148 147
10 Paul Streatfield A 2461 1862 599 149.75 160 146 144 149
11 Louise Ingoe B 2458 1786 672 168.00 150 163 185 174
12 Bill Johnson B 2450 1741 709 177.25 183 173 165 188
13 Deklan Modra A 2427 1734 693 173.25 192 150 192 159
14 Damien Geyer B 2421 1737 684 171.00 151 192 170 171
15 Danny Ross C 2391 1765 626 156.50 160 187 165 114
16 David Heron C 2373 1763 610 152.50 162 140 165 143
1 George Frilingos A 2724 1888 836 209.00 215 207 180 234
2 Colin Hunt B 2705 1893 812 203.00 220 200 192 200
3 Ann Maree Putney A 2623 1849 774 193.50 204 186 186 198
4 Paul Dollman B 2587 1811 776 194.00 148 201 224 203
5 Jason Walsh B 2584 1839 745 186.25 183 176 177 209
6 Brenton Davy B 2553 1841 712 178.00 156 209 199 148
7 Russell Hinton A 2486 1791 695 173.75 166 192 183 154
8 Cameron Zacher C 2481 1756 725 181.25 184 164 189 188
9 Rob Chinner A 2468 1831 637 159.25 161 181 148 147
10 Paul Streatfield A 2461 1862 599 149.75 160 146 144 149
11 Louise Ingoe B 2458 1786 672 168.00 150 163 185 174
12 Bill Johnson B 2450 1741 709 177.25 183 173 165 188
13 Deklan Modra A 2427 1734 693 173.25 192 150 192 159
14 Damien Geyer B 2421 1737 684 171.00 151 192 170 171
15 Danny Ross C 2391 1765 626 156.50 160 187 165 114
16 David Heron C 2373 1763 610 152.50 162 140 165 143
Stage 3 7 Games Match Play
Pos Total Bns Ave 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
1. George Fralingos 4242 120 199.71 201 183 175 177 180 299 183
2. Colin Hunt 4183 100 196.86 221 205 205 162 201 168 216
3. Jaon Walsh 4149 80 194.11 197 253 231 166 211 233 194
4. Ann-Maree 4035 80 190.29 216 176 178 220 165 158 219
5. Paul Dollman 3987 60 191.43 201 158 236 172 172 208 193
6. Brenton Davy 3763 30 168.57 188 160 163 183 182 148 156
7. Russell Hinton 3685 50 164.14 225 203 143 168 126 148 136
8. Cameron Zacher 3623 40 157.43 138 178 156 154 180 157 139
Pos Total Bns Ave 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
1. George Fralingos 4242 120 199.71 201 183 175 177 180 299 183
2. Colin Hunt 4183 100 196.86 221 205 205 162 201 168 216
3. Jaon Walsh 4149 80 194.11 197 253 231 166 211 233 194
4. Ann-Maree 4035 80 190.29 216 176 178 220 165 158 219
5. Paul Dollman 3987 60 191.43 201 158 236 172 172 208 193
6. Brenton Davy 3763 30 168.57 188 160 163 183 182 148 156
7. Russell Hinton 3685 50 164.14 225 203 143 168 126 148 136
8. Cameron Zacher 3623 40 157.43 138 178 156 154 180 157 139
Thanks Steve, Anne and the rest of the staff at Berri Bowland for putting on such a superb tournament. The customer service you all provide is second to none. Berri would have to be one of the best looking centres I’ve seen and if anyone is thinking about building a new centre, I’d advise a visit to Berri first.
As for the tournament, the pattern was tough, as seen by the scores posted. Some tournaments are high scoring, some are low. This one happened to be low... simple. The prize fund was fantastic considering the low entry fee and the various awards given out including a Plasma TV for the High Game shows the effort put in to make this such a great tournament. I’m sure Carol appreciated her ‘Double Gutter’ award.
All in all it was a great weekend, catching up with friends that I don’t get to see very often and bowling in a terrific tournament at a fantastic centre.
Looking forward to going back next year.
Cheers
Russell Hinton
As for the tournament, the pattern was tough, as seen by the scores posted. Some tournaments are high scoring, some are low. This one happened to be low... simple. The prize fund was fantastic considering the low entry fee and the various awards given out including a Plasma TV for the High Game shows the effort put in to make this such a great tournament. I’m sure Carol appreciated her ‘Double Gutter’ award.
All in all it was a great weekend, catching up with friends that I don’t get to see very often and bowling in a terrific tournament at a fantastic centre.
Looking forward to going back next year.
Cheers
Russell Hinton
bowlrig
Just A Bowler
Mate, thought you might have stopped in for a coffee on your way past.
Hope the family is well.
Rob
emmtee83
Member
I was thinking the same thing....great minds must think alike!
Hopefully a little CASH enticement will see a few numbers turn out....I''m trying to push as close to the $800-$1000 first prize as possible...but as you say, all depends on numbers.
The negativity seems to have subsided now......shows that good will always overcome evil!
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