BB housemates John and Ash escorted out of house

that just shows there was nothing to it, unless more happened after the event, what happened should not of go them kicked off the show.

look at the swedish show they have sex all over the place, it is more to do with the aca and television laws.

they cut aduals only because it contained sex sense, god some movies have more nudity than bb
 
Hayley said:
They told her want they wanted to do to her and camilla, she had no problem with the turkey slapping thing. the way i see it they all got what the wanted.
only problem with this is the fact that she was held down, that constitutes assult, doesn't make a bit of difference if she was ok with it or not.
 
Of course I will be howled down on this one............I think this has all been blown way out of proportion. After watching the footage, I see she knew what they were gonna do, yet she still climbed into bed, she laughed the whole time, and continued to lay there and joke with the boys after. There was no harm intended at all and to me it didn't look like he used much force to hold her. Assault because they held her down?! If they held her down and tickled her would that still be assault?

Camilla didn't seem too bothered at all, and I think the key to whether or not an incident is actually an assault is whether or not the victim felt threatened at all. It didn't look to me like she was and I guess that is because she knew the true intentions behind the incident. Was this really a sexual assault, or more of a tormenting act? I know a 19 yr old I know who threatened to drop his towel if his younger sister wouldn't change the tv channel or get off the computer, there was no real harm intended.

As for the message it sends to young people, well send your kids to bed, they shouldn't be watching at that time of night anyway.

These two boys are really going to suffer for this one moment of foolishness because some people want to make more of it than it really was.

Just my opinion:cool:
 
Well spoken Ice, I am in total agreement with you. Their ratings have gone through the roof! I wonder how many more so called "boundaries" they will mess with. So if you get howled down with this one ~ so too am I!

Cheers
Bernie
 
I totally agree with you Ice and was thinking the exact same things.
Can someone tell me what years "Ashley" (Michael Cox) bowled president shield for WA and what he averaged?
Thanks :)
 
Ice said:
Of course I will be howled down on this one............I think this has all been blown way out of proportion. After watching the footage, I see she knew what they were gonna do, yet she still climbed into bed, she laughed the whole time, and continued to lay there and joke with the boys after. There was no harm intended at all and to me it didn't look like he used much force to hold her. Assault because they held her down?! If they held her down and tickled her would that still be assault?
Camilla didn't seem too bothered at all, and I think the key to whether or not an incident is actually an assault is whether or not the victim felt threatened at all. It didn't look to me like she was and I guess that is because she knew the true intentions behind the incident. Was this really a sexual assault, or more of a tormenting act? I know a 19 yr old I know who threatened to drop his towel if his younger sister wouldn't change the tv channel or get off the computer, there was no real harm intended.
As for the message it sends to young people, well send your kids to bed, they shouldn't be watching at that time of night anyway.
These two boys are really going to suffer for this one moment of foolishness because some people want to make more of it than it really was.
Just my opinion:cool:
hate to burst you bubble but this is from the austrtalian parlimentary and legislation website
"31. Assaults
(1) A person who—
(a) assaults or threatens to assault another person with intent to commit an indictable offence; or
(b) assaults or threatens to assault, resists or intentionally obstructs—
(i) a member of the police force in the due execution of duty; or
(ii) a person acting in aid of a member of the police force—
knowing that the member or person is such a member or person; or
(c) assaults or threatens to assault a person with intent to resist or prevent the lawful apprehension or detention of a person—
is guilty of an indictable offence.
Penalty: Level 6 imprisonment (5 years maximum).
(2) In sub-section (1), "assault" means the direct or indirect application of force by a person to the body of, or to clothing or equipment worn by, another person where the application of force is—
(a) without lawful excuse; and
(b) with intent to inflict or being reckless as to the infliction of bodily injury, pain, discomfort, damage, insult or deprivation of liberty—
and results in the infliction of any such consequence (whether or not the consequence inflicted is the consequence intended or foreseen).
(3) In sub-section (2)—
"application of force" includes—
(a) application of heat, light, electric current or any other form of energy; and
(b) application of matter in solid, liquid or gaseous form."
 
to give you a little more insight

"36. Meaning of consent
s. 36
For the purposes of Subdivisions (8A) to (8D) "consent" means free agreement. Circumstances in which a person does not freely agree to an act include the following—
(a) the person submits because of force or the fear of force to that person or someone else;
(b) the person submits because of the fear of harm of any type to that person or someone else;
(c) the person submits because she or he is unlawfully detained;
(d) the person is asleep, unconscious, or so affected by alcohol or another drug as to be incapable of freely agreeing;
(e) the person is incapable of understanding the sexual nature of the act;
(f) the person is mistaken about the sexual nature of the act or the identity of the person;
(g) the person mistakenly believes that the act is for medical or hygienic purposes."

Point (c) is a good one
 
Well then, we must have all be guilty of assault. I am sure we have all held down someone and tickled them, son, daughter, neice, nephew etc. Hell arrest me now, I have on numerous occasions restrained my kids in the fits of their tantrums till they calmed down, or to prevent their belting each other up etc etc. And any bloke who ever went to a bucks night is sure to be guilty of some serious criminal act or at least being an accomplice.............................OMG the world has gone mad.

That is the problems with laws and the way they are written, they can be taken by anybody with an over reactive imagination and twisted until they fit the criteria with little regard for common sense:rolleyes:
 
Well then, we must have all be guilty of assault. I am sure we have all held down someone and tickled them, son, daughter, neice, nephew etc. Hell arrest me now, I have on numerous occasions restrained my kids in the fits of their tantrums till they calmed down, or to prevent their belting each other up etc etc. And any bloke who ever went to a bucks night is sure to be guilty of some serious criminal act or at least being an accomplice.............................OMG the world has gone mad.

First heard it not happy seen it
omg no very close to assult as she was compliant.......................:rolleyes:



Gary...................................:cool:
 
I've wanted to use my favourite Billy Madison quote so many times in this thread so in general, here it goes...

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

:D
 
Ok I am in full backing what ICE has said. This is no different to a burglar breaking into a house falling through the roof and sueing the poeple who's house he was breaking into... all bull****.

How many people out there have or have wanted to be tied down by their wife/husband/lover would this not be classed as assault???

Come people when did we stop thinking for ourselves???
 
2muchfun said:
Can someone tell me what years "Ashley" (Michael Cox) bowled president shield for WA and what he averaged?
Thanks :)

Hey, Michael Cox bowl Pres Shield in 2000 and 2002.
2000 - 8 games for a 194 average.
2002 - 12 games for a 181 average.
Highest game was 224.

Hope that answers your question.
Bec Mueller.
 
Re- read nighteyes post regarding the law..........I am afraid boys your fav game of "dutch ovens" is also a criminal act:rolleyes:
 
Ice said:
Re- read nighteyes post regarding the law..........I am afraid boys your fav game of "dutch ovens" is also a criminal act:rolleyes:

PRAISE THE LORD, THANK HEAVEN FOR SMALL MERCIES ;)
 
Ice said:
Re- read nighteyes post regarding the law..........I am afraid boys your fav game of "dutch ovens" is also a criminal act:rolleyes:

thats it, my life isnt worth living anymore :(
 
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