2006 v 2007 Tournament Stats

[GeorgeF]

Had an hour to kill and came up with the following, interesting.........

Feel free to add your comments

Interesting Stats

Avg needed to make a cut in 2006 199
Avg needed to make a cut in 2007 205

Avg need to win in 2006 218
Avg need to win in 2007 228

RH wins in 2006 v LH wins 8v3
RH wins in 2007 v LH wins 6v6

Participation 2006 avg 82
Participation 2007 avg 76

 

[Jez]

u needed to included a stat including left hand wins, right hand wins and two handed wins

 

[Jase]

u needed to included a stat including left hand wins, right hand wins and two handed wins

Also a stat with...NO HAND Left and Right Wins...

 

[wchester]

hey George..how about giving us something more meaningful? Like each bowler's total earnings for all rankings tournaments vs entry fees.
I'm sure the second tier tournament bowlers would like to know exactly how much they can make if they have a good year.

 

[GeorgeF]

Sure Wayne, for all those aspiring bowlers out there who think there is no money in bowling, here is an estimate of my bowling summary for 2007

Profit + $20000

Things to consider

* I am sponsored and don't pay for equipment
* Some of my bowling trips were covered by my ex-employer
* Summary does not include 2 International tournaments
* Summary does not include income from Columbia 300 (when I worked for them)

Any questions, ask away

 

[GeorgeF]

I also sold some prizes I won including a lose cut diamond and a bowling ball Remember these are not exact figures, just an estimation

 

[rpac23]

How about sharing some of those diamonds?

I'd be your pal forever!

 

[wchester]

Thanks George....
now if we could only get the TBA and tournament promoters to begin publishing their prize fund payouts (actual payouts, not those that are estimated. ie based on x number of entries.) Better yet, have the TBA and or Totalbowling publish an earnings list similar to their rankings points lists.

PS...Congratulations on another outstanding year and career effort., even it it was a short one.

 

[Cam S]

Sure Wayne, for all those aspiring bowlers out there who think there is no money in bowling, here is an estimate of my bowling summary for 2007
Profit + $20000
Things to consider
* I am sponsored and don't pay for equipment
* Some of my bowling trips were covered by my ex-employer
* Summary does not include 2 International tournaments
* Summary does not include income from Columbia 300 (when I worked for them)
Any questions, ask away

just something ive often wondered about and im not taken a shot at u all george but how does this all sit from a taxation point of view.

Not just at the top level but even at the non elite level of tournament bowlers who thru league and lower tournaments make a bit of coin during the year.

Im sure most of us could work out we spend more than we get but i guess at the end of the day it is still a form of income.

 

[Street Racer]

Sure Wayne, for all those aspiring bowlers out there who think there is no money in bowling, here is an estimate of my bowling summary for 2007
Profit + $20000
Things to consider
* I am sponsored and don't pay for equipment
* Some of my bowling trips were covered by my ex-employer
* Summary does not include 2 International tournaments
* Summary does not include income from Columbia 300 (when I worked for them)
Any questions, ask away

and george.... i take it that doesnt involve airfaires?

 

[sampson1791]

Just for George
Cheers for these stats too.

got this from cafepress

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/geek/-/pv_design_details/pg_51/id_20746324/opt_/fpt_/c_666/

Ummm 1 little question
can you just have the tourney costs not the accommodation/travel and have state where each was held.
it will give bowlers an idea of cost just from their state tourneys. cheers

Merry Christmas All

Jason

 

[rowds]

in answer to your question about taxation ninja from an accountants point of view, unless it can be seen to be a business the ATO would likely class those income and deductions for the lower level bowlers as a "hobby". You would need to making a profit within a few years of starting to claim otherwise its just private expenditure, but i'm sure a call to the ATO would clarify any other issues you might have.

 

[jason_doust]

And be sure to call them three times more for some different opinions!

I'm no tax lawyer, but the "hobby" issue came up decades ago. If you have a great year and pocket a bunch of cash, the ATO probably isn't interested in you, because you'd then get to deduct all your expenses and set a precedent for other players to do the same.

 

[GeorgeF]

As previously mentioned a lot of my flights were covered by work. Also remember this is an estimate, not a detailed exact summary.

From an ATO point of view, it's a unique situation in which a bowler would have to seek a special ruling on. I've spoken to several people about this and I've chosen not to seek a ruling. ie. If you seek a ruling and ask for a special case consideration you will probably draw attention to yourself and there is a chance you will be asked to declare it.

I've run the situation by my accountant on numerous occasions, I'm not at liberty to disclose what I did but let's just say I'm ok

The results were suppose to be a guide to show bowlers that you can make money out of bowling in this country, not as much as the good old days, but you can certainly finish ahead.

I can't speak for other 'bowlers' out there who earn money from bowling, this is just my personal situation.

Merry Christmas

 

[steve jones]

George....everything said in this thread falls swiftly into the redundant bin [well except perhaps for Jason's usual inteligent observation regarding this topic coming up decades ago - which is certainly correct - most notably in the 1960's when the APBA was in vogue] - except four words you wrote "draw attention to yourself"..remember that - and forget the rest! If you haven't experienced real misery - and you want to - play ducks and drakes with the ATO - they are in a league all their own!

Steve