WHAT TOURNAMENT WOULD YOU BOWL IN !!
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AdrianS
This is the future!!!
Stick the name 'ATBA' in front of it and i'll have a go at getting there, maybe Mr Stewart along with a few others (are you hearing me Hodgey??? and a couple others too) can help bring back the best admin body this SPORT ever had. Hey, i'll hop a bus with a suitcase and 4 bowling balls if you get something going, bring it on!!!
KnuckleHead
Vic Represent
Rikjpool said:
That sounds like a good idea let's try more Baker tournaments.
Chris
Warren Stewart has gone, but his instructions were to get this circuit going.
I guess it got hand-balled to me, and I don't want to drop the ball at this stage.
Adrian, I am the past president of the ATBA if you wanted to know, and many of the old TD's are gone so they won't be back, it was left up to me and a small group which included Ian Nicholls and Allan Hill to keep it going for over 5 years after we stopped getting members.
For all those years we only ran two events under the ATBA banner, the Melbourne Cup and Warrnambool Cup, until we stop using the name and closed the account. We no longer run the Melbourne Cup although Ian Nicholls is still involved, and the Warrnambool Cup keeps going each year because of Neville Vagg and others who are mentioned above who continue running it.
During the 60's three organisations were formed, APBA and MTBOV as well as the WTBO for ladies, the APBA changed it's name to VCBA and later to ATBA, the rest is history, and the other organisations catered to graded bowlers as well as open bowlers, between them there were more than 600 members, but none of these organisations exist today. This is where most of the tournaments came from.
Regarding other tournaments:
Bowling in Skins tournaments (each game is worth XX dollars) where all you have is a fun format that goes for the day is fine, there is plenty of room for these types of events.
Sport Bowling or tournaments where you bowl on a specific lane condition is also fine, there is room for those as well.
The major events, AO, Vic 150, Melb Cup, Sth Pacific are events that most of the genuine scratch bowlers will compete in, that's fine if you want the experience and challenge of bowling against the best in the country.
The more competitive bowlers have Rachuig, EastCoast, Dunn Shield, Country Cup, Emerson Shield as team events.
But what else is there other than a couple of tournaments at Werribee, Sale, and marathon at Mildura which is very popular.
Remember that the majority of our better bowlers are coming from the youth ranks, hence the reason for so many youth events around the country, and the rest are in the seniors which has a successful circuit of there own.
Handicaped events for many are a waste of time and effort, and for many scratch bowlers who seek good competition, they go to interstate events to compete.
How much support do you think we will have in Victoria for a Grand Prix, this is the question you need to all ask yourselves.
Regards,
Patrick Birtig
I guess it got hand-balled to me, and I don't want to drop the ball at this stage.
Adrian, I am the past president of the ATBA if you wanted to know, and many of the old TD's are gone so they won't be back, it was left up to me and a small group which included Ian Nicholls and Allan Hill to keep it going for over 5 years after we stopped getting members.
For all those years we only ran two events under the ATBA banner, the Melbourne Cup and Warrnambool Cup, until we stop using the name and closed the account. We no longer run the Melbourne Cup although Ian Nicholls is still involved, and the Warrnambool Cup keeps going each year because of Neville Vagg and others who are mentioned above who continue running it.
During the 60's three organisations were formed, APBA and MTBOV as well as the WTBO for ladies, the APBA changed it's name to VCBA and later to ATBA, the rest is history, and the other organisations catered to graded bowlers as well as open bowlers, between them there were more than 600 members, but none of these organisations exist today. This is where most of the tournaments came from.
Regarding other tournaments:
Bowling in Skins tournaments (each game is worth XX dollars) where all you have is a fun format that goes for the day is fine, there is plenty of room for these types of events.
Sport Bowling or tournaments where you bowl on a specific lane condition is also fine, there is room for those as well.
The major events, AO, Vic 150, Melb Cup, Sth Pacific are events that most of the genuine scratch bowlers will compete in, that's fine if you want the experience and challenge of bowling against the best in the country.
The more competitive bowlers have Rachuig, EastCoast, Dunn Shield, Country Cup, Emerson Shield as team events.
But what else is there other than a couple of tournaments at Werribee, Sale, and marathon at Mildura which is very popular.
Remember that the majority of our better bowlers are coming from the youth ranks, hence the reason for so many youth events around the country, and the rest are in the seniors which has a successful circuit of there own.
Handicaped events for many are a waste of time and effort, and for many scratch bowlers who seek good competition, they go to interstate events to compete.
How much support do you think we will have in Victoria for a Grand Prix, this is the question you need to all ask yourselves.
Regards,
Patrick Birtig
AdrianS
This is the future!!!
Fully aware of all that Patrick, just for me the ATBA name seemed to give a tournament that extra something, i also remember talking to one of the old TD's once about the ATBA in Vic being created to bring tournament bowling in this country under one banner, pity this never happened, guess a couple of states didnt want to give up their precious sets of letters! damn shame, if it had happened competitive bowling in this country might still be near where it was 15 yr ago, hope to get over there and bowl an event or 2 whatever their called anyway.
Thanks Adrian, I think I have had my say many times about why it all went pear shaped, now's not the time to bring it all back.
And I also acklowledge you have always supported bowling in Victoria, well done and we will look forward to seeing you down here again.
Regards,
Patrick Birtig
And I also acklowledge you have always supported bowling in Victoria, well done and we will look forward to seeing you down here again.
Regards,
Patrick Birtig
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retired
Patrick,
I for one am very hopeful the Grand Prix Circuit is succesful, and is not shelved, like the NSW version was after 1 event.
I will support the circuit, and l hope all of those people that have spoken to me about my series get behind this great series. Higher payouts, for approx the same entry fee.
Any bowlers looking for a chance to really get the chance at some great scratch events this is the way to go.
As long as this series is running, it gives all the Vics the chance of being even more competitive on the national scene. Lets all get behind the events, and ensure they have the required numbers each & every month, the events are held.
Great value for money. Double your money for top 14, $1500 for 1st place.
Patrick, l hope all bowlers do support this, as you will run the events in a great fashion. We all only need to look at the Warnambool Cup and the Melbourne Cup from the previous years to see how great the events you run can be.
I would like to ask that maybe holding a series a different formats would be a good idea, rather than just top 14, 13 games matchplay.
also more than happy to help where l can mate.
Lance Dyer
I for one am very hopeful the Grand Prix Circuit is succesful, and is not shelved, like the NSW version was after 1 event.
I will support the circuit, and l hope all of those people that have spoken to me about my series get behind this great series. Higher payouts, for approx the same entry fee.
Any bowlers looking for a chance to really get the chance at some great scratch events this is the way to go.
As long as this series is running, it gives all the Vics the chance of being even more competitive on the national scene. Lets all get behind the events, and ensure they have the required numbers each & every month, the events are held.
Great value for money. Double your money for top 14, $1500 for 1st place.
Patrick, l hope all bowlers do support this, as you will run the events in a great fashion. We all only need to look at the Warnambool Cup and the Melbourne Cup from the previous years to see how great the events you run can be.
I would like to ask that maybe holding a series a different formats would be a good idea, rather than just top 14, 13 games matchplay.
also more than happy to help where l can mate.
Lance Dyer
