Mens World Championship
- Thread starter tenpinyo
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So I am assuming you have read the criteria. 2 of the points are current rankings. And current rankings percentage how is that not current form. And if you are in form it will be obvious when you attempt the other criteria. Having just seen the youth guys and girls go through a very similar criteria i think TBA might finally be on the right track. Only time will tell.
Phil
Phil
tenpinyo
Member
i would say that current form would include 07 SPC, 07 brunswick, 08 K & K, 08 AO and 80 Melb cup as they are the last 5 'Major' tournaments...that just my opinion...also im not sure how the asian rankings play a part as im not sure all bowlers would be able to afford to be bowling over there...in saying that how many bowlers actually have asian ranking points atm?
I agree with you Mr tenpinyo.
Why 2007 events?
Why Asian Zone rankings??
and... are double & triple ranking points going to be included in the rankings list for selection criteria? To me it doesnt seem fair at all for that to happen because people haven't been able to accrue them AND have lost them this year.
I don't know too much about the system up there at Lidcombe but it seems like they are on the right track with that. I just don't understand why they have stuffed it up with the first few criteria.
Why 2007 events?
Why Asian Zone rankings??
and... are double & triple ranking points going to be included in the rankings list for selection criteria? To me it doesnt seem fair at all for that to happen because people haven't been able to accrue them AND have lost them this year.
I don't know too much about the system up there at Lidcombe but it seems like they are on the right track with that. I just don't understand why they have stuffed it up with the first few criteria.
tenpinyo
Member
i think the idea of having form as a criteria is fine but i think that recent form is jsut as if not more important...if they want to use tournament results as the criteria it should be the last 5-6 'major tournies' ie SPC, Brunswick, K&K, AO and Melb cup...plus with NSW open coming up as well...in regards to the rest of the criteria it all seems pretty good to me...but in saying that im still a rookie youth bowler and obv wanna hear wat some of the big boys have got to say about it...
GeorgeF
Hypercell = Hyperhook!
I've got Asian ranking points, if you attend an ABF event, they aren't too difficult to obtain, especially if you bowl well. For the common bowler in this country aspiring to make their first National team, bowling an ABF event and chasing points isn't an option.
There are numerous flaws in this new policy by TBA, he are MY views
1. The camp is in 2 weeks!!! Malaysia picked their training squad for this event 2 years ago, they have been training as a team for several months, along with most Asian countries. Why do we always leave it to the last minute?
How about the people who work for a living? With 2 weeks notice we have to book flights (not so cheap within a 2 week time frame), find accommodation and then if we are lucky have to apply for leave if we make the team.
2. History has proven CAMPS don't work. Putting people into a team who scrap in through a 'points' system is not how you pick a team. Attending World Champs is not a new thing, along with the 2 disciplines of patterns we bowl on (short and long) we know what to expect. There is no need to re-invent the wheel, we have the bowlers who we already KNOW will bowl well, running a camp is expensive and pointless. ** There are much more constructive ways on creating a talent pool for future International competition. Bowling is not like other sports, we have tried camps, they haven't worked.
3. If we do choose to leave selection to the last minute why not go on CURRENT form? Sounds too obvious to me. Some bowlers who bowled great last year will have a points advantage over bowlers who are currently bowling great right NOW! Who cares if you bowled well in the 2007 AO? How about the AO that was just on a few months ago? or the other events that have been on THIS year?
4. The cost is almost $4000, a cost could have been greatly reduced with some flights and hotel rooms booked several months ago whilst they were on special, along with everything else, the longer you leave it, the more it costs. This trip could have cost under 2K if planned even 4 months ago. All members have to folk out $3000 to $4000 in 6 weeks, good luck! (my recent holiday to the greek islands, italy and france was way under this figure, join the dots)
In summary, its all bad news if you ask me. I truly hope this isn't a sign of things to come for Australian bowling.
Good luck to all rolling off for the 2008 Mens Team, as you can guess from this post, I won't be there. I taken the liberty of carding myself now :cardY::cardY:
There are numerous flaws in this new policy by TBA, he are MY views
1. The camp is in 2 weeks!!! Malaysia picked their training squad for this event 2 years ago, they have been training as a team for several months, along with most Asian countries. Why do we always leave it to the last minute?
How about the people who work for a living? With 2 weeks notice we have to book flights (not so cheap within a 2 week time frame), find accommodation and then if we are lucky have to apply for leave if we make the team.
2. History has proven CAMPS don't work. Putting people into a team who scrap in through a 'points' system is not how you pick a team. Attending World Champs is not a new thing, along with the 2 disciplines of patterns we bowl on (short and long) we know what to expect. There is no need to re-invent the wheel, we have the bowlers who we already KNOW will bowl well, running a camp is expensive and pointless. ** There are much more constructive ways on creating a talent pool for future International competition. Bowling is not like other sports, we have tried camps, they haven't worked.
3. If we do choose to leave selection to the last minute why not go on CURRENT form? Sounds too obvious to me. Some bowlers who bowled great last year will have a points advantage over bowlers who are currently bowling great right NOW! Who cares if you bowled well in the 2007 AO? How about the AO that was just on a few months ago? or the other events that have been on THIS year?
4. The cost is almost $4000, a cost could have been greatly reduced with some flights and hotel rooms booked several months ago whilst they were on special, along with everything else, the longer you leave it, the more it costs. This trip could have cost under 2K if planned even 4 months ago. All members have to folk out $3000 to $4000 in 6 weeks, good luck! (my recent holiday to the greek islands, italy and france was way under this figure, join the dots)
In summary, its all bad news if you ask me. I truly hope this isn't a sign of things to come for Australian bowling.
Good luck to all rolling off for the 2008 Mens Team, as you can guess from this post, I won't be there. I taken the liberty of carding myself now :cardY::cardY:
KnuckleHead
Vic Represent
Also if you apply you have to pay $300 nomination and if you don't make the team you get that back. Also If some bowlers didn't go to NSW Open 07 or K&K 08 they have to apply for exemption aswell. I would apply but in a short amount of time it's not going to happen. Good luck to all who apply. Just pick the team on Current Form.
PS If they don't get 6 nomination's they won't send a team.
I sent Gillian an email yesterday and that was the response.
PS If they don't get 6 nomination's they won't send a team.
I sent Gillian an email yesterday and that was the response.
wchester
Bowling Tragic
Isn't that exactly what they're doing now!
Dozza
Member
It's not the highest bidders ... its the ones that are willing to make the biggest sacrifice to represent their countries.
The real shame is there are so many people out there that think they are not part of this problem but they really are part of the solution.
My sarcastic comment for the day ... I feel better now.
Dozza
The real shame is there are so many people out there that think they are not part of this problem but they really are part of the solution.
My sarcastic comment for the day ... I feel better now.
Dozza
